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	<title>Comments on: Working without a nib, Part 5: No, 3!</title>
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	<description>Coding under the close supervision of cats</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://lapcatsoftware.com/blog/2007/06/10/working-without-a-nib-part-5-no-3/comment-page-1/#comment-2288</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve reconsidered my opinion and written a new &lt;a href=&quot;http://lapcatsoftware.com/blog/2007/06/17/working-without-a-nib-part-4-setapplemenu/&quot; title=&quot;Working without a nib, Part 4: setAppleMenu&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;post&lt;/a&gt; on this issue. I don&#039;t think that I&#039;m jumping through any more hoops by using &lt;code&gt;setValue:forKey:&lt;/code&gt; instead of &lt;code&gt;setAppleMenu:&lt;/code&gt;, though. The two techniques are functionally equivalent; the latter technique doesn&#039;t automatically solve the other problems I&#039;ve discussed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve reconsidered my opinion and written a new <a href="http://lapcatsoftware.com/blog/2007/06/17/working-without-a-nib-part-4-setapplemenu/" title="Working without a nib, Part 4: setAppleMenu" rel="nofollow">post</a> on this issue. I don&#8217;t think that I&#8217;m jumping through any more hoops by using <code>setValue:forKey:</code> instead of <code>setAppleMenu:</code>, though. The two techniques are functionally equivalent; the latter technique doesn&#8217;t automatically solve the other problems I&#8217;ve discussed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Nutting</title>
		<link>http://lapcatsoftware.com/blog/2007/06/10/working-without-a-nib-part-5-no-3/comment-page-1/#comment-2276</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Nutting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 06:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like you&#039;re jumping through lots of hoops that could be avoided by just calling the setAppleMenu: private method that Joar suggested in part 1.  You said you&#039;d rather not use that in production code, but does your current strategy of relying on private ivars and undocumented behavior really seem *less* fragile?

That being said, I&#039;m enjoying reading about your investigations into the nether regions of Cocoa.  Be careful out there!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like you&#8217;re jumping through lots of hoops that could be avoided by just calling the setAppleMenu: private method that Joar suggested in part 1.  You said you&#8217;d rather not use that in production code, but does your current strategy of relying on private ivars and undocumented behavior really seem *less* fragile?</p>
<p>That being said, I&#8217;m enjoying reading about your investigations into the nether regions of Cocoa.  Be careful out there!  <img src='http://lapcatsoftware.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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